April 2016 For what? Kiron in aries; house 7 Ever. You feel emotionally regenerated, and it helps you get rid of any subconscious blocks. Please leave. They just aren't used to it and may fear it, avoid it, seek to look at it from a safe distance or retreat when it rears up. As the PLUTO person, she tried exerting control, while my dad tried to contain her. We are moon conjunct moon exact and moon pluto conjunct at two degrees. Posts: 1071From: TexasRegistered: May 2009. But first: any boyfriend who claims someone other than you is their soulmate is not going to make you happy or be a good partner to you, ever. His Ven conj my Mars 14Aqu. Hi Daleth, I know when Pluto hits someone's AC or DC, they usually are drawn to the angle or may want to control or exert power or influence over the AC or DC owner. JUPITER is about as subtle as a beast, but always has the best intentions in mind, lol. There is no point in discussing Romantic Soulmates or Twinflame astrology outside the framework of how love connects with astrology in real life, outside the markers already found in enduring real-life love relationships. Theres an exact support about what each other specifically needs in an emotional love. Now I feel free I am changed forever but I am sad to see him still being the same he went on a transformation quite different than me he was so innocent and what I thought was pure to being the opposite I guess me leaving showed me the real him and im so lucky to have listened to my intuition early on and yes i also had an online connection with him at the beginning and it got worse once we decided to physically see eachother. I have this DW in a synastry, as well. So in our composite we have IC conjunct north node again (wth 12 minute orb) with composite mercury sitting at 20 aries. Pluto Aspects In Synastry | ElsaElsa - ElsaElsa | Astrology News & Forum Im sorry Im just rambling at this point but I liked hearing your perspective as someone from the opposite end. In these cases, the sexual energies and attraction are indicated with both parties. Can I ask what are the criteria that make up a valid double whammy? Any theories? A double whammy helps create an even stronger mutuality of feeling. The Mars person instinctively senses the needs of the Moon person and strives to fulfil them. Pluto can trigger self-destructive behavior in the Moon person. PLUTO is not bad. Venus Square Pluto - Dangerous Obsession - Astroligion Moon/Pluto in Synastry I think he feels the same or similar, but we pretend that theres nothing special between us. Venus and Jpiter in scorpio; house 2. I've never been interested in a guy like Im interested in my Cap friend but at the same time Im deathly afraid of him because that means all of me will be "exsposed" to him making me vulnerable which is something Im not use to but I think Im suppose to learn something from him due to all the Saturn too. Take my word for it, married men have affairs, yes its not so unusual when marriage is taken like a joke, but most dont play with your feelings as well. A double whammy is when the same 2 planets are in aspect between two people. I've been active reader of your posts on lindaland forum. I know that among family members, PLUTO-IC conjunction can be an indicator of rebellious power play between parent and child. It is not possible for you to copy the content of this website, If you'd like to use any content from this website, please contact us. House 1 Moreover, there is usually at least one of these double whammy aspects that also repeats in the composite a fair amount of the time, that is a full guarantee that aspect is very prominent in their relationship. However, the Venus person can find the Mars person somewhat aggressive and read that the Mars person is only interested in sex. Pluto is the planet of intensity, you know. Best, That could be considered like something of "an edge", but still doesn't completely discount a native's lifelong experience. I have this with a girl I am crushing on HARD, and it is a double whammy. What about a moon square mars double whammy ? Its one. Does that mean you WILL have sex? Planets And Asteroids June 2015 PLUTO-IC connection may indicate a kind of possessiveness on the PLUTO person's part of the IC person - like they must protect them, or take them under their wing, even if the IC person resists the notion. Someone my age will have PLUTO in roughly the same spot, so my MOON will "feel" pretty much the same as usual about anyone else's PLUTO. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. I'm going to do some more digging and will return.. thank you again so much!!! However, its unbelievable how I could fall in love like that for 13 years, and still love him. Marriage Aspects in Synastry - Sasstrology.com Pluto gives intensity to everything it comes into contact with.The Moon is the instincts, habits, unconscious patterns. It is always interesting to hear how aspects work out in peoples lives. It seems like I should with my Moon in 3rd and my Mars in Cancer, but I don't. We've learned to give each other lots and lots of space. Hi Leeloo, Thank you. If the Pluto person feels that the relationship is about to end, they might use manipulative tactics to hold them back. Mid heaven in gemini; house 9 This aspect is considered . In #1, you mentioned the Lights and Venus/Mars. Hopefully both sides of OPs story can let their relationship go and remember their great moments for what they were moments. MOON-MOON aspects are more important in this situation. Loved this article the energy receptions are so true, except in my conjunction dynamic Im Pluto & he is the Moon and its the qualities of those planets being expressed in our relationship are flipped. Moon-Pluto Aspects in Synastry - Astrology Anonymous You are obsessed with each other, it seems impossible to get your lover out of your mind. What about the Venus sextile sun? The planet Venus represents love, affection, and romance, while Mars is the planet of passion and raw sexual energy. Ascendant in virgo. Highly plutonic peeps probably will only 'go' for a Pluto intense relationship. 3) Do you think it is significant to have draco and tropical composite sharing exact zodiac points but different planets? I have never been able to talk about my feelings with them. Yod, February 2018 On the mood swings, thankfully, no, I don't have a lot of mood swings. Im tired of this, really, but the bond is strong, were connected with each other at many levels. Uranus square Moon I feel guilty, but at the same time I know that I shouldnt be because he as a husband and father should have more respect. The attraction is instinctive in nature. Pluto Mars trine, pluot Venus conjunct (hes pluto) with a lot of easier aspects. With the exception of me being the intense Pluto person & the one that knows everything about him, all the qualities of the Moon are what I am experiencing, and rest of the Pluto qualities (minus the 2 Pluto qualities I noted above) are how I am experiencing him. The opposition and square aspects can lead to conflict and ego clashes, but the attraction is still indicated. I do a good number of synastry/composite charts for clients and find that the double whammy is not rare at all, on the contrary there was usually at least two for every couple I've seen so far (I include the Nodes and Chiron). I know they try to manipulate me but only when I try to hide my truth so I am 100 percent honest with them about everything big or little harsh or not. MC trine Sun Talking to him the other day gave me great relief knowing he feels what I feel and understands because I really thought I was going crazy and there was something wrong with me. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. venus/mars DW Look for a soft aspect out of either your JUPITER or your MOON-PLUTO to channel that energy in a positive way. The main dispositors in my chart are PLUTO and VENUS (they rule each other), so I'm quite familiar with dealing with PLUTO, too. Venus conjunct Mercury Perhaps, it might work for some, like with conjunction, sextile and trine aspects. The MOON will be swept away by such intensity they have never felt before. If it is, then it will hit him deeply. I have 2 yods with someone in composite chart. Scorpie, I wanted to apologize to you, because I didn't mean to hijack your thread. The Moon person is extremely attracted to the Pluto person. This is generally what we check out first when looking at a synastry, if there are aspects between the "big 5" because this shows two things: the two people involved interact on a personal level; we have romantic/marital combinations in synastry, since these are the 4 primary romantic marital/planets. I've always found it a personal hurdle, honestly. 3. Quite important in a relationship, right? I feel they've disappeared without a good-bye and have become uncontactable. As the article states, the concept of TF/soulmate as I see it, pertains to a great, tangible, successful love and those markers are found in such relationships. My Psyche conj his Sun/Ven. Whatever important aspects, good and bad, that you can tell me would be very helpful. You may even find you become obsessed with one another! If you care to post the natal chart, and the synastry/comp, the answer should be right there." In this case, particularly in the case of a DW, I'd say the exchange is fairly equal as to who "feels it". When a couples Mars planets are in harmonious aspects to each other, your sexual energies and drives will match well. Oh God I have unconditional love for my pluto person. Our theme here is a great love that has the potential to turn into a great relationship, and viceversa. Can you please tell me what happens when a woman's juno conjuncts a man's pluto (exact conjunction) in synastry? It takes courage to remove old things and make room for new things in life. Couples do not lack having a passionate and loving family. I'll add I have Venus in Libra too (not conjunct those)--but it is considered the biggest dominant in a Pullen Chart and so I wonder if it adds a personality to my Pluto. Also i feel like I have accomplished( its a feeling only) a lot and now is the time to pamper myself(if that makes any sense) lol. Astrology or just amor opposite to amor will be ok, thank you! Resistance is futile for me when I experience the double whammy. Like Venus-Mars inter-aspects, mars moon inter-aspects represent the male/female or yin/yang energy between couples. I've a few questions in my mind and wonder if you have any comment on them.. You're a dog with a bone. This luminary represents your emotions, unconscious, how you want to be nurtured, and what makes you feel taken care of. She was a trouble child. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Things will feel natural with the other person. Identifying a great romantic-marital relationship with astrology Wow, we have the dw. Or that is how they perceive their energy. You can feel exhausted and tired from time to time, but still, you want to go back to the other person. Hah, x-ray vision! He says he doesnt want anything serious but Im having trouble getting him out of my mind. People close to my age all have their Pluto on my Moon and square my Sun-Venus, but it doesn't have as strong of an effect on me since I have it natally like Blind writer was saying. But not here. Neptune square Ascendant Hi Virgo :) I recommend this report: http://www.leeloosesotericorner.com/store/p159/ESSENTIAL_RELATIONSHIP_-_A_Comprehensive_Relationship_Report.html. And my moon conjunts his north node and his venus conjuncts my north node exactly. north node square north node Sharing aspects between the same planets but with different aspect names i.e. As the PLUTO person, she tried exerting control, while my dad tried to contain her. April 2015 I cant stop thinking about him, then out of blue I searched his name on the internet, and I found out that he is married and the father of 3 children. Synastry: Venus-Saturn Aspects Between Two Charts @KleineKaro, thanks for your comment. Both our Suns aspect each other's Mars and Venus. Both of them wants to get to know each other to the core. When we see eachother, we just pick off where we left but in the beginning it was tiresom and frustrating because I didn't understand what was happening but now that I'm starting to understand Astrology everything is sorta mutual between us like peanutbutter and jelly. We many other karmic placements but this was an interesting read thank you! I'd like to know how my IC will make his Pluto feel. This is true for me too , this pluto and moon person experience transformed me and liberated me from my past hurt it changed me but I know now it was never supposed to last because I began to love myself too much to live miserably. The planetary mars venus connection will always be the most traditional of all of the relationships. Sun Square Venus Synastry: With this Sun square Venus synastry aspect, there is a lot of mutual admiration at first and plenty of natural attraction. 2 of them show up in our composite. I am a woman and I just posted a long text on how my male friend (and former housemate) and I have double-whammy Pluto trine Moon in synastry, among other important things, such as Sun/Moon conjunction, his Sun, my Moon, in Pisces. Thanks again for making this checklist. The Moon person feels powerless and vulnerable, but still, they are terrified of loosing the other person and ending the relationship. An orb of 10 is really wide though, even for an aspecting luminary. This planet often feels overwhelming to anyone, especially to this emotional and gentle planet. We don't have any Saturn connections. Example: Man's pluto in aspect to woman's venus, while woman's pluto. The reason the pairs Moon/Sun and Venus/Mars are number 1 on the list is because these are the two archetypal romantic/marital pairs, as per their mythology and symbolism. If your planet conjuncts or opposes this midpoint, you are the external manifestation of that need. I am searching for twin flame signs however I get too insecure down the road and ask for insight We met over the internet in 2006, later we met in my country in 2007, we were together for 3 weeks, and since then we have always been in contact. This combination draws out each-others deepest . Posts: 1093From: USA TodayRegistered: Aug 2015, Copyright 2000-2018 The Pluto person, on the other hand, sometimes doesnt know how to deal with the Moon person. PLUTO wants to needle its way in, stake claim on that private space, and fill in all the little cracks. The Pluto person can see who the Moon person really is, and they are aware of the Moon persons subconscious needs and motivations. Let's just not mention the JUNO and BML conj to PLUTO, shall we? March 2015. Moon Conjunct AS 4) Transformative: Pluto contacts or conjunctions, intense house overlays. Today (September 5th, 2020), he writes to me that we have something unfinished between us that we never did and always desired. Thank you so much Leeloo!! Pluto has strong destructive power, too. I really do feel like he's my other half.. or twin flame. Astrology Bits: Venus - Pluto Synastry . Thank you. Moon Opposite Pluto in Synastry - Sasstrology.com Venus Conjunct Mars Synastry - Seraphic Siren I like to think neither of us would but it definitely has the potential judging from the intensity of the emotions and feels. Taipei,Taiwan Then you also have a Venus Mars opposite as well as a Venus Mars square, double whammy. my IC by 1 in my 4th. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. In positive scenarios, Pluto enhances the Moon's perceptions and stimulates its imagination, but it can also cause fear or vague antipathy to itself in the Moon. Indeed there are four DW's. December 2016 that should help at deciphering a synastry by making clear personal tendencies of each. The energy between you is strong as soon as you meet. Moon Pluto Eros Mars Venus Mars Synastry: This aspect especially potent when the woman's Venus is being aspected by the man's Mars. it is thought that the relationship is quite likely to have a powerful influence on both parties involved. That helps me to feel a little lighter, so I don't act all broody or anything. l also read you can have what someone described as a "double whammy" when the connection is reciprocated and the feelings are the same for both. I believe all Moon-Mars aspects bring this energy into any partnership. Normally ourselves and someone we like/fancy. My Ven conj his Mars 25Scor. Here are our important aspects in our synastry: ..? My Moon-Pluto is in late Virgo in my 3rd house and my Sun and Venus are in late Gemini. Is this right? Node Conjunct Pluto ILLUME ASTROLOGY: SYNASTRY NEPTUNE MOON LOVE UNDERWATER - Blogger Often, the affection of the Moon person triggers the ego of the Pluto person. Pluto, on the other hand, is all about intensity, depth, transformation. Any major aspect between Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars in a synastry is particularly strong. Not sure whether this really sounds as Plutonian to me or rather Neptunian You seem to see the truths but in the same time you dont. Thank you! Not necessarily. Join our mailing list to receive the latest news, articles and updates from our team about the new website and new features coming soon. That's like Moon-Pluto to the second power. soulmates and twinflames checklist. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. Sexual Synastry - Astrology 42 If you are the Moon person, you are instinctively drawn to the Pluto person, its almost like you were obsessed with them. This made me even more in love with him. It feels like the Pluto person knows how to push the buttons. And you examine mine etc. venus conjunct ceres karma and psych, thats my venus and her astroids Vesta is conjunct my Pluto/NN as wellLOTS of activity in my Libra! It does not represent love, but more like carnal synastry regarding sexual drives. NN trine sun; sq sat/plu February 28, 2011 astrologyplace. Both the Sun and Mars are masculine energy planets. Venus is sociable, and a smile is just a smile. Master what your SN points you to, and you will be able to move forward toward your NN with clarity and success. mars square moon February 2017 March 2016 Thank you, Hi Anthony :) even a stranger has courtesy to not intentionally hurt the feelings of someone, this man knowing you for years supposedly loving you just built up a whole lie that WILL definitely be revealed one day and does he care that you would be crushed? TELEPHUS conj SUN 0. Since my VENUS is in Scorpio, I can relate - I need that intensity, as well. You can continue the unfinished business with him next life. @kleinekaro, as someone who has pluto conjunct sun, and experienced this in synastry, i know that it can be overwhelming, it can feel like the love that will never end and in mosr cases, theres no reason it has to. It's different from Neptune's illusion/delusion, which is about wanting to merge (even with a mirage)it's about emotional power. Currently, I am once again fascinated with someone and we've got a double whammy - Me Taurus with Mars and Venus in Aries, they Libra with Mars and Venus in Scorpio. :) "close conjunction or DW or involved in regular closed patterns". This is not to say that the Pluto person doesnt love the Moon person (or at least that they are not attracted to them). Cartomancy It lends an intuitive insight into things hidden in the dark or under the surface. I've read a few very intriguing things about Priapus and realize that I should be aware of its location in people's natal charts. Thank you so, so much for your detailed post. No aspect alone defines a relationship, but normally this particular aspect would mean that the man has a Plutonian influence on the woman's partnering behavior and might even represent the dark, compelling choice of a partner. It's just an incredible force to be reckoned with. Linda's Neptune was also conjunct Paul's Ascendant. I've looked at books for examples of synastry charting, and see few. The effect is softer in synastry. As for VESTA, that's your blood, sweat, and tears at work there. Venus - Pluto In Synastry - Astrology Bits With the man who's Pluto is conjunct my IC 1, I think what you said is right. It's a theoretical ideal. This would be when your Venus aspects your partner's Mars, and when your Mars aspects your partner's Venus. . Example: Man's pluto in aspect to woman's venus, while woman's pluto aspects the man's venus. You basically lost life. When you see Moon conjunct Pluto Synastry, there is a magnetic attraction in a relationship. But i have to make that conscioua effort to love myself.It must be hard for you. Ideal: DW (double whammy) Having a Sun/Moon AND a Venus/Mars DW is quite rare, so don't get discouraged. The fact is, we have never met in reality again since 2007, our contact is strictly virtual and we only remember the 3 weeks we had together in real life. (cancer stellium sun/ve/ma/merc/juno opp moon all square pluto) However, if there are additional supportive aspects, the Mars square or opposition can still work. My Venus falls over into H3--so maybe it does not since the rest are in H2. or that she'll end up with someone else she might get a divorce from later on? In contrast, two relationships I had at college age/early to mid-20s, which lasted respectively 18 months and 5 years, and -- this is key -- were neither happy nor healthy, both involved double whammies. My Moon, Mars and Neptune in Libra conjuncts my friends Sun, Venus in Libra. between 2 potential lovers, synastry between 2 peoples natal charts often uses key planets that make the feelings vary in intensity, depending on the planet. Would the above quote apply for synastry as well? I would also like to know that does anyone know if a close conjunction, but not considered conjunction also had the same effect? This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. IC is inherently defensive, and resistant to probing. And we are not even in a relationships!!! The Venus and Mars story has been throughout history. The 18-month one had his Moon exactly conjunct my Sun and his Mars trine my Venus. There are challenges that make you think about and question what truly comes from you and what is an external influence. In a Moon conjunct Pluto synastry aspect, it feels like the Pluto person knows everything about the Moon person: there are no secrets, you cannot lie. This synastry aspect is INSANE! Either way There is a strong attraction. i'm wondering what you think about this. If there are many and/or strong Siamese aspects between you, it is normal to feel an attraction that is a code for "similarity attracts". In a Moon-Pluto synastry aspect, the Moon person often feels vulnerable. But your comment suggests that it might not be just one-sided. Because of the Moon persons sensitivity, the Pluto person often hurts their feelings and need for safety unintentionally. Two Monkeys pick at each other's ticks. Pluto is about power in astrology. You must share a tremendously deep love. sun/saturn DW Moon Conjunct Pluto Synastry Love Aspect - Astrology With square and opposition aspects, intense sexual energies are also indicated. Synastry Studies: Rethinking Venus/Saturn - The Inner Wheel His Pluto squares my Moon. Often, as humans, we want to know the compatibility (including sexual compatibility) between two sun signs. This has to finish. This depends on each persons individual chart. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. I have a lot of the similarities with a guy and I feel so illogically and intensely connected to him even though I repressed my feeling previously. When the Moon person meets Pluto, there is a deep emotional pull towards one another. Pluto can get mean. I dont try at all to hurt him or manipulate him but it happens sometimes but I love him with my whole heart and never want to hurt him even though I know it wouldnt be hard for me to do. Sometimes he gets nervous to tell me things sometimes and struggles to get it out , so often times because of this I try to just blurt out what I know before either of us can get out any other complex thought so everything is out in the open. Oh that's interesting--so my moon will conjunct everyone's Pluto in my age range:/ This means they all have emotional power over me?? Yes, i say that it leads nowhere positively because this man, no matter his feelings, does not respect you enough to give you the truth. Oppositions can be like wine, they get better with time. These soft aspects deepen the intimacy shared by the couple, but not in the powerful, obsessive or destructive way, like the conjunction. Hello, Aspects commonly found in the Synastry of Soulmates Double Whammy's (a double aspect: Moon sextile Venus // Venus trine Moon) . When the Moon and Pluto meet in a synastry chart, especially with the conjunction, square, or opposition, you can expect a deep cleanse to happen.
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