If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. It is really rocking my world right now <3. What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? as well as to the signs and houses. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Thank you so much, Love. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. Groom conjunct the Vertex. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. Is this you? Thank you, Kay <3 Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. Who is whom? I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. It is opinion, not truth. Welcome, Ariel and great questions. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. This brings out their dark side. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? Connections between the Vertex and the lunar nodes are also indicators of past life in synastry. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. Thank you for your comment. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. Your analysis is lovely. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. Where did you get these theories from? To me, it always is. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! Oh dear, I am soooooo freaked out!!!!!!! I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. I get into this discussion a lot with people. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. Grace dear His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. Thanks for your help Amiann. You truly made my day! Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. They made my day, Jeanie. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. It is very, very powerful. Also, there is no abuse either way. or you consider just the closer orbit? I'm so cappy Knowflake . I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. (both in Capricorn) Your articles hit me hard again:-). I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. I feel like it helps me. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! 10. Eros in a synastry chart. You find them sexually attractive. Retro makes one thoughtful, so I do not see it as bad as many do. He was considered irresistible. Thank you for this information! Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Thank you, Amiann. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? This is a general rule, my Friend. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Check house placement and aspects to further your . I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Your email address will not be published. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. the Moons will make for best friends. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? I also found out that my Nessus is 1 degree conjunct my current boyfriends Sun(Cancer). My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. My main point is reflection. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. It is valued! Thank you =). I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. Maybe, maybe not. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. People tell me the same thing they tell me with Nessus. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. Thats not the truth. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. 3. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. what would result from this? Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Lovely, Lo! Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. . Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. In fact, it is the opposite. Composite: moon conjunct Neptune, Venus square Pluto, Black moon lilth conjunct Pluto square mars conjunct ceres..any explanations on this type of relationship would be very helpful!!?? The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. Can it be dangerous amiann? xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! Thank you Ariel! Hi! I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Knowing more. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. under what theme of the forum? Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. for example a 1.46.. or 2? It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. I am so intrigued!!! If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. Welcome, Britt. Wow. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. Thank you, Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? I mean, a persons life is complicated. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. This totally depends on someone as a person. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. Eros represents what turns us on. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. Your words mean a lot to me! The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). Yes, that is a good way to put it. Thats weird. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Nessus is the abusers asteroid. . Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. My Pluto opposite his Moon. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. Hardly. What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). One person is kind of riding the other one in this. There is also a near-exact conjunction of his north node to my Eros. We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. My Nessus square his Venus My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. I just never have, not that it is not good. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. Am I right? We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Ami, hello. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. That is what I was saying. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Thank you, Lo and Welcome Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. I came across your blog post and so went through my charts looking for couple friends and this one came up as having the conjunction. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. Did you know I had one? My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? Lilith conjunct Ascendant Great primal connection with fighting lol. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. Hello, what a great article, thank you. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. Hardly. Aww Fluffy The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. Any comments will help. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. Would appreciate some insight!! That would be my guess. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. 5. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. This will be HOT. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. I read some things. I know my life, and what manifests in it. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. Could it be a past life meaning? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It may be off a few minutes and change things. Yes, I was thinking about this. Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. It is sad! Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. Not eros. I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. (double-whammy..) Partners switch roles? We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Hi Ami. Do you have any advice for me? Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. . Hats off to your courage. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus.
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